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Post by Spideynerd on Jul 24, 2016 18:49:22 GMT -5
Well, with these... weird turns of events... I guess I have to say why I deserve to go to the end. Before I do that, I want to go off on a bit of a side note. While things didn't completely go the way the hosts wanted, and even with the person they crowned the winner saying she would rather have a challenge to determine who truly deserves the opportunity to decide who sits with them in the final 2, they stuck to their guns. Hats off to you guys, I felt like that might be the choice you made, but at the same time I thought you might respect the wishes of Amanda instead of just sticking to your guns. Honestly the call to name her as the Final HOH winner came to a shock to each one of us.
With all that said, I'm about to say something that is going to shock some jury members. I'm actually going to plead my case, because even though, yes, the original plan for the Bullet Club was to get Jake sitting in the final 2, it was always my plan to be sitting there in the end with him. I wasn't going to let him just win this game without putting up some kind of fight. Now that it is crystal clear that our ideal final two won't be happening, I have no choice but to fight for my survival in this game.
Amanda, I know this is a tough choice for you, and I know Jake wants this more than me. I know you want this win more than me. In the end, whatever you decide is perfectly fine by me. I don't really feel the need to explain myself to you or the jury just yet. You know how I played this game, and how loyal I was to not just the Bullet Club, but you as well. My biggest allies in this game were always you and Jake. I'm just happy this was our final 3, even if things have kind of gone down hill since, and this game is going to be ending on a some what sour note. If whatever Jake says convinces you that he is the person to take to the final 2, take him. If you feel like you should take me to the final 2, then I'll be honored to sit next to you in the end. I just really have nothing else to say other than I know this is a tough call for you.
The moral of this little speech thing, is to do what feels best for you. Either way, I'm proud of you for doing something Jake and I didn't forsee. We had planned to go to the end together, but you were kind of always the third wheel (so to speak) for us. It was going to be tough for me to decide who to take to the end if I had won the Final HOH. Just like I know it is tough for you. But congrats regardless, you really do deserve this.
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Post by doolgirl on Jul 24, 2016 19:08:55 GMT -5
Jake isn't available currently to post on here. But he reached out to me privately.
These last twenty four hours in the game have been emotionally draining for me.
I've always known you both planned on taking one another to the end and knew I'd have to fight to get to the end. While I might not have actually won part three I did put HOURS into that part one challenge and feel proud of that.
Cody, you have been my friend since I first met you several years ago on tv.com. I've never played this game without you as an ally and I don't think I ever will since I plan on this being my last season. You've been more than just an ally this season you've been a real friend who has helped me through many situations. Despite what anyone thinks you've played a really good game. I had someone tell me early on that you needed to go because you were playing the best social game and were the most liked person in the house. Jury members might have forgotten that once you became truly known as Cody, but I didn't. Be proud of how you played this season.
Jake coming into this game I never dreamt we would work together. The last time I played the game a few years ago we were "enemies". Always friendly I might add. When I saw you wanted to work with me I was hesitant but went with it. I honestly had never thought I'd stick with it, but overtime I saw how truthful you were and how good of an ally you were. You always had my back. You helped me get through Brendan and his rudeness. You've also been a good friend to me and while we've had some issues here recently I still care about you and want the jury to know you're a good person and played a good game.
With that being said I've gone back and forth on this but have made a decision.
And I've decided to bring Jake. There are a lot of factors that went into this, but now isn't the time or place to list those.
Cody I hope you understand and stay proud of making it this far!
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Post by Spideynerd on Jul 24, 2016 19:16:30 GMT -5
I understand completely. Congrats you two. Honestly, I much prefered this final 2 over Jake and myself, or Amanda and myself. I always kind of viewed the two of you as the best in this game, with myself playing second fiddle, even if you guys think I played a bigger part than I see myself playing. You both deserve this, you two always did. Thanks for bringing me along for the ride.
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Post by Brett on Jul 24, 2016 19:33:45 GMT -5
The jury questioning phase of the game has now begun. Cody, Carleen, Adam, Jacob, Crystal, Isaac, Taylor, Ryan, and Red, you all have the opportunity to ask Amanda and Jake each one question about their gameplay to help you decide who to vote for to win the game.
Each jury member gets one post to ask a question and each finalist gets one post to respond for each question. I don't anticipate flaming going on between the two of you, but let's take precautions to remain civil.
In order to keep the game moving, you must have your vote into me by Thursday night, July 28th, at 7PM Central time, at which point I will announce the winner. You do not have to ask a question if you do not want to.
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Post by doolgirl on Jul 24, 2016 20:21:20 GMT -5
I just want to let Jake and all the jury know I am incredibly busy this week I'm working like 61 hours this week so I might not answer my questions right away but promise I will in an as timely manner as possible.
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Post by Fratomon on Jul 24, 2016 23:38:12 GMT -5
This is not how I wanted to get to the final two.
This is not how I wanted this game to end.
This is not how it SHOULD have ended.
But this is what is going to happen.
I'm sorry.
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Post by Fratomon on Jul 25, 2016 14:53:59 GMT -5
Can you guys just send in your votes to Amanda and we can get this over with?
I don't want to answer any questions.
I've been defeated for the past 24 hours and want this to be over so I can move on.
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Post by doolgirl on Jul 25, 2016 15:27:53 GMT -5
Aw Jake don't be like that you played a good game too. Let the jury ask their questions. You've still got a shot.
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Post by Fratomon on Jul 25, 2016 15:47:41 GMT -5
This season for me, as well as my legacy in general, has been forever tarnished.
I've given people who already hated me more reason to laugh at me.
I'll be nothing more than a cheater for the rest of my life when it comes to this game.
Even if I didn't use this information to cheat and turned myself in the minute it gave me and advantage, not turning it in sooner is all the reason people need to assume that I am nothing more than a cheater.
...and that weighs down heavy on me, and I want this to be over. I am conceding this game to you, Amanda. You're the winner.
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Post by taylorg8 on Jul 25, 2016 16:42:32 GMT -5
Ypu can prove to me I shoul;d still vote for you Jake. Explain to me how the whole cheating thing went down. That's my question. Dont know if I can ask yet, but try. Give me a good answer. Were you the one that admitted it? You guys both did a great job!
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Post by Fratomon on Jul 25, 2016 16:48:53 GMT -5
Ypu can prove to me I shoul;d still vote for you Jake. Explain to me how the whole cheating thing went down. That's my question. Dont know if I can ask yet, but try. Give me a good answer. Were you the one that admitted it? You guys both did a great job! This is the one question I will take because I do want to explain myself on that front instead of leaving it ambiguous. When Trent was evicted from the game, he showed me some of the things people had been saying about me, and about the game in general. Through that, I was able to see some people answering questions, among other things. When I received these screenshots, I said a few things to Trent on them, showed them to Amanda and Spidey with my own commentary as Brett had pointed out earlier, and did nothing with them beyond that. When Brad was evicted, he told me what he was going to say as answers to his questions, and that in turn was also not right. I kept this to myself, only sharing it with my two closest allies and never expected it to come into play in the game, albeit I am now remembering that in past real life Big Brother games, they have had competitions where jury members said something and the two remaining people in the Final HOH had to guess who said what. When it came down to the Final part of the HOH between me and Amanda, and we found out what the contest was, I was upset, Amanda was VERY upset, and I initially was going to turn in my answers with a very, very heavy heart. However, while sitting there reflecting on the situation, I realized I couldn't go through with that due to the spirit of the game, and ruining a good friends only opportunity to save herself, as I said on multiple occasions to Bullet Club people, and even Amanda knew, that I was going to take Spidey to the Final 2 if I won. With a few minutes left in the competition, I decided to turn myself in to Brett because I didn't want a wonderful person like Amanda to be screwed because I had information I wasn't supposed to have. I had the info and never intended to cheat with it because I didn't think there was a way I could cheat with it, and when the time came that I could cheat, I turned myself in, before I made an even bigger problem by hurting Amanda and having the truth come out in a different way.
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Post by taylorg8 on Jul 25, 2016 17:16:25 GMT -5
Thank you very much, Jake. I respect that answer. You played a great game. I don't know if you'll have my vote, but if I don't vote for you, know it isn't because of this or your game, it's simply because of who you're sitting next to. I think you truly played a phenomenal game, and Amanda or Jacob are probably the only people I would ever considered voting for over you. GREAT game no matter what happens. Mad respect for making final 2 this many years in a row. Your biggest weakness is your social game with people, and that is the most important part. You should work on that in the future. But personally, I've never really had a problem with you. Again, good game BOTH of you. And if you have stuff to explain to me still, Amanda, go for it! I know there were things you wanted to say to me before!
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Post by lassidoggy on Jul 25, 2016 18:24:56 GMT -5
Jake and Amanda, congratulations on making it to the final two. This was a very difficult game, and you both earned your spots here tonight. This is the time to ask questions to the finalists.... Well, I don't exactly have a question, but I do have something to say.
I'd like to address the jury on my views of the two finalists. As jurors, it is out responsibility to choose who we think played the best game. Tonight, I'm going to dissect this game within three parts: Strategic, Social, and Physical. I believe that these three components, along with many other things, contribute to the game.
Let's start with your physical games- competition wins. In my eyes, you're both fairly equal. Jake, you did better in the earlier competitions, while Amanda, you won the competitions close to the end, to clinch your Final Two spot.
Next, let's examine your strategic game. You were both in the Bullet Club, but in different positions. Jake decided to enter the game with his minions to secure a win. Amanda had to adapt a strategy to make it to this point. Jake, you were ALWAYS going to be in this spot. The question was whether or not you deserved it. To me, you didn't. If the Bullet Club never existed, I doubt you would be in this position today. I can't say the same about Amanda. I could definitely see Amanda making it to the endgame had there been no mega-alliance.
Finally, I wanna talk about both of your social games. Jake, when you had control of how the game would go, you took on a cocky persona. Jacob, Brendan, and I would be at the receiving end of numerous rants and threats. This is contrasted with Amanda, who was the ONLY member of the Bullet Club that would talk to me when I was in the minority. Jake, if someone wasn't in your alliance, you didn't show them an ounce of respect. I can't say the same about Amanda, who was the only one to even acknowledge me.
Do I even need to mention the recent event? Jake, you cheated in the last Head of Household competition, and I do think that your reputation has been completely tarnished. You bragged about your integrity and your morals, but you showed that it was all a facade. Amanda, you can walk out of this game with your head held high. I can't say the same about Jake, who I'll always think of as a cheater. Cheating is very different than lying or manipulation.
So, tonight, I'll more than likely cast my vote for Amanda. Jake, you'll probably win, and that's okay. After this game, I'll probably never have to see any of you ever again. However, you do not deserve the victory. Not one bit. For any Survivor fans out there, I see Jake as Russell Hantz. Jake played a flashy game, and to the naked eye, played the better game. However, we need to look further in, and realize that Jake's game is flawed. Amanda, I hope that you walk out of here as the winner. You deserve it completely.
Jake, if you'd like to defend yourself and your legacy, along with your crumbling reputation, feel free to do so. Amanda, if you want to help me to convince everyone that you are the most deserving person of the win, also feel free to do so.
Thank you.
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Post by doolgirl on Jul 25, 2016 18:44:53 GMT -5
Isaac and Taylor I really want the opportunity to respond to you both. I'm currently at work and it's just not feasible for me to type this on my phone. I'll be home within 1-2 hours and get them posted so please just give me a little time thank you!
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Post by doolgirl on Jul 25, 2016 19:47:14 GMT -5
Okay I need to start this out with this. I do not want to receive anyone's vote "only" because or even partially because they think Jake cheated. I do not believe he did. He made the right call by telling Brett the truth when he saw what the competition was. Him doing that showed a lot to me about his character and his friendship towards me, because he didn't have to do that. Please try and give Jake a fair shot at this because if you step on the outside and look in he played a great game as well. I don't want Jake to go out with his head hanging down, because he deserves to be sitting in the final two with me for sure. If I beat him I want it to be because you all in the jury truly believe I played a better game than him, not because you think he cheated.
With that being said, Jake PLEASE do not just bow out of this. You have a lot of things to point out and show that you did in this game. While I obviously want to win this game, SO DO YOU! This is why you played, so please don't give up. Let everyone in the jury ask you a question and give them a response. Don't sell yourself short.
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