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[doolgirl]

Jul 25, 2016 17:16:25 GMT -5 taylorg8 said:

Thank you very much, Jake. I respect that answer. You played a great game. I don't know if you'll have my vote, but if I don't vote for you, know it isn't because of this or your game, it's simply because of who you're sitting next to. I think you truly played a phenomenal game, and Amanda or Jacob are probably the only people I would ever considered voting for over you. GREAT game no matter what happens. Mad respect for making final 2 this many years in a row. Your biggest weakness is your social game with people, and that is the most important part. You should work on that in the future. But personally, I've never really had a problem with you. Again, good game BOTH of you. And if you have stuff to explain to me still, Amanda, go for it! I know there were things you wanted to say to me before!

Taylor, 

I have wanted to say a lot to you since everything went down with my being responsible for you to go out. I just want you to know how terrible I felt about this. I really truly did. 

When the game first started and I decided to form an alliance with you and Ryan this was my true intentions. I wanted to go to the end with you guys. I NEVER foresaw what happened happening. Jake had invited me into an alliance with him, brad and adam at the beginning of the game and I of course accepted. I needed the protection and when I saw that Jake was able to keep me safe week one I felt good about it, but I knew I needed to make other plans because I didn't figure he would want to go far with me. I had formed a really good bond with Ryan and you and I had always been friends on tv.com so I thought it would be perfect. When Jake revealed bullet club to me I was SHOCKED. And when I found out Casey was actually Cody from tv.com I was even more shocked. I was honestly really honored that he felt like he could trust me enough to bring me in. Casey and I had been forming a good bond and suddenly I realized it was a friend I knew, so learning about that alliance was a huge turning point for me. I knew I had to stick with them especially while the voting rounds were going on. I didn't want to lose you guys though, so I was constantly trying to figure out a way to make this work. But then I found out about the powers that Jake and Cody had gained and I knew if I turned on them it would

1. Be for nothing because they could overturn it and

2. Put a HUGE target on me.

That was why what happened in double eviction happened. Please know it truly crushed me. I felt awful about it. It made me not even want to play the game anymore because I hate hurting people's feelings. I want you to know, I didn't make that decision until we lost Ryan though. I had told myself if Ryan managed to say I was going to fight for you two and see if we could make something happen. I don't know what my plan was, I really don't. And we will never really know, but I decided that very last minute. Some may question my decision to join bullet club, but I clearly made the right choice because I made it here! 

I think the fact that Jake trusted me so much he not only decided to bring me into bullet club, but helped keep me until final three shows a lot about my game play. Because I obviously was not a part of the original plan. I also think it says a lot about my game that I never received ONE nomination. I was never on the nomination block, but I also never received any nomination votes. The only two votes I received were two from week 1 when I missed the first HOH and vote. 

I just hope you know, the way things went down with you and Ryan will probably be my biggest regret from this game. While it did a lot to solidify my position with the bullet club, it hurt me knowing how much I hurt you. 

Thanks for sticking around and watching the game and being a part of the jury!

[doolgirl]

Isaac,

I appreciate your kind words for me. I really do, thank you. I felt like you and I had nothing but a good friendship during the game and I am glad we were able to have that. You always were making me laugh. I am sorry things didn't work out the way you hoped in the game and I am also sorry in my role in that as being a part of bullet club. I know that it came to a shock to you. Just know all our conversations were genuine. Remember dog people always have a bond!

As I pointed out to Taylor I did not ever receive any votes in this game except for two penalty votes week one. I was never nominated. I think that is a pretty huge accomplishment in a game like this. I believe I won four (five if you include the final 3) HOH comps, but I did not actually ever win any vetos. I feel that shows a lot about my game. I tried my best to play with as much integrity as I could. It is a hard thing to do, but I tried. I tried VERY hard to communicate with and have a relationship with everyone in the house. In fact some people I had to pester for awhile and then they finally started responding me on a more regular basis (I'm sure you people know who you are ). While some of that was game play of course, a lot of it was because I really just wanted to get to know everyone in the house. And the people that I did get to know I am so glad I did. I feel I've made a lot of great friends in this game that I hope to keep in touch with after the game regardless of what happens.

While I really want the win, I also want to give Jake credit where it is due.

I cannot and I will not bash Jake. I believe Jake played a great game. He as you pointed out won several competitions and he was a huge ally to me in the game. I do not know what would have happened for me in the game without him. I am sorry that you feel like everyone else in bullet club did not communicate with you. I had always thought things between you and Jake and you and Cody were good before the big reveal. Brendan was quite rude to me in the house and Jake really helped me out with that. I felt like quitting the game early on because of how Brendan was treating me and Jake was the person who helped me realize it was not worth it and provided me a lot of support. In fact Jake provided me a lot of support throughout this entire game. I don't think I had one HOH except for my last one (in final four) that I didn't go to him for some advise--and I did that because he is good at the game, but he is also a good friend. I know you feel hurt and frustrated by how he did things, but just try to give him a shot.

I would love your vote, but I just want to make sure you give it to me because you believe I played a better game than Jake. Just please consider everything before you cast your vote.

Thanks for taking the time to read this, Isaac!

[crystal]

Who is the person you regretted the most by sending them out?

[ryanb34]

Well okay, the craziest thing about all the banning of Brad and Trent is that Red and I come in as jurors. It's one thing for the jury to be voted out and know that they're jurors but when you get evicted six weeks ago and are told that you're not a member of the jury, you really stop caring about the game after about a week. Every so often I'd think, oh yeah, that game is still going on so I'd check in to see how it was going. To be told you're a juror and to get invested again is really jarring. It wouldn't surprise me if Red didn't show up, and I wouldn't blame him. It's been seven weeks removed for him! Anyway, I'm just glad to say that I've made it to the jury stage in every ORG I've played.

To both of you, I was way past hard feelings about the game a week after I got out. It takes some time to decompress, but you do. And I hope whoever loses between you two (and the rest of the jurors) can realize that this is just a game and the real prize is in playing it.

Okay so Amanda, I was going to ask you how you came into the Bullet Club but you kind of answered that in Taylor's question. But my question to you is, how were you able to move up the hierarchy of an already planned alliance? Was it that you just won comps when you needed to or when did it become the "plan" to have you behind Brad, Trent, Adam and Carleen inthe pecking order(Seriously, did you just win every veto? I have no grasp on the comp win history)?

Jake. First of all I want you to know that I like you and respect you as a person. I understand that this means more to you than anyone else in the cast. However I won't let that influence my vote because I know that if you're going to win you wouldn't want it out of pity from the jurors, but rather respect from them.
I want to talk to you about integrity. Not about your integrity as a person, but about the integrity of the game. Contrary to most people, I really respect your actions lately. Not the speaking to jurors, which I understand was them coming to you, but respecting the integrity of the game and the final HoH by being the one to tell the hosts about it. I really respect you for doing that when you could have held onto that info and just won the final challenge. On the other hand, what I really have a problem with is how the formation of the Bullet Club hurt the integrity of this game. I didn't get a chance to voice my opinion earlier because it was revealed after I was evicted, but from my understanding you invited friends like Trent and Carleen and Casey/Cody for the sole purpose of being in an alliance that was created beforehand. That's the part I really have a problem with. This is supposed to simulate a game between strangers and while a lot of you have played in seasons past, past relationships are fine and bound to happen. I would have been fine if you guys had created the alliance on day 1, but you didn't. If you sign up for a game for the sole purpose of being in an alliance, then the trust is already 100% there. It's the level of distrust in even your own alliance members that makes this game. And apparently the hosts knew about it too, which really bugged me. I know hosting is tough, and you three did an awesome job this summer, but I'm not sure I would have allowed it. I really appreciate how you guys handled the final HoH situation. Anyways, Jake, I do really hope you respond to this and clarify anything that I may have gotten wrong since I kinda just skimmed through that Bullet Club reveal. I didn't really ask a question, but if you believe this didn't ruin the integrity of the game I'd love to hear your opinion. When you do win a Big Brother ORG, I want you to know that you've earned it.

[doolgirl]

Crystal,

It's really good to hear from you. I'm glad you stuck around to be a part of the jury.

As for who I regretted the most sending out it would have to be Taylor. As I said earlier it really made me feel awful the way it went down. I wanted to explain to him at the time why things were happening but that was when bullet club and Cody/Jake's extra powers were still a secret so I had to protect everyone in my core alliance I wish things could have happened differently because it felt like a true back stab and I hated that so much. I know my explaining the how and why probably helps it make more sense but I still feel regretful over how it all happened.

Thanks for taking the time to ask us a question.

Ryan I will respond to you later when I'm off work.

As for everyone else in the jury can I highly encourage you all to post a question sooner than later. I am starting a new second job this week and have training so tomorrow I literally am working 630a to 4p at one job then 5p-10p at another so tomorrow I will be completely unavailable and I don't want to keep anyone waiting too long for a response.

Thanks so much!

Jake I'm still hoping to hear some responses from you. Remember you deserve this too!

[Fratomon]

I don't really have any answers or defenses for myself at this time.

The hardest person to evict for me was Trent, and I regretted it because I should have done more to make sure Jacob was evicted that week.

We started the Bullet Club on day one of the game, a few hours before the game started. It wasn't something that went on for weeks of planning before hand, we got together on the first day and we formed a plan and we rolled with it. It's up to a matter of how you view integrity, but it wasn't against the rules and was something that had happened in the past, people who knew each other and trusted each other working together from day one and never turning on each other. I just kicked it up a few notches with a few more people.

[Spideynerd]

Alright, so, I just want to say again, congrats to the both of you. You both deserve to be sitting next to each other in the final two of this game. Now, my question is for both of you. See, I know how the two of you played this game. Others, they think they know, but they don't know the whole story. In fitting with some thing Joe had us do time and time again in comps, I want you guys to explain your guys game to the members of the jury. What big moves did you make? What regrets do you have? Did you ever waiver from you original plans? Stuff like that. I want a kind of week to week break down of what happened through the eyes of you two. I'd set a word count minimum, but I'm too nice for that.

Basically, I want everyone to truly know your games like I did. They deserve to learn what was happening behind the scenes really. Take your time with this one, and good luck to you both, and never forget, #BulletClub4Lyfe.

[doolgirl]

Jul 26, 2016 3:38:33 GMT -5 ryanb34 said:

Okay so Amanda, I was going to ask you how you came into the Bullet Club but you kind of answered that in Taylor's question. But my question to you is, how were you able to move up the hierarchy of an already planned alliance? Was it that you just won comps when you needed to or when did it become the "plan" to have you behind Brad, Trent, Adam and Carleen inthe pecking order(Seriously, did you just win every veto? I have no grasp on the comp win history)?

Hey Ryan, 

This is my third time attempting to respond to this. My computer is so terrible that it has almost brought me to tears out of pure frustrations right now so I'm sorry if this response is a little brief---the first post it was not but I lost that

First off thank you for coming back on as a jury member becuase I know it was last minute and it will be hard to catch up on everything that has happened in the game. I appreciate you taking the time to write a question and response for us both. 

I just want you to know that I really am glad you played the game. Not only I, but a lot of people in the game really liked you and were really sad with how soon you left the game. I am sorry in any role I played in that, but I did try to fight for you--I really did. 

In terms of how I moved up in the hierarchy I think there were a lot of factors. First I proved I could be trusted by doing what I said when I said I was going to do something. I won competitions and proved myself worthy to the alliance. I gained their trust. But what I truly think a lot of it had to do with was the bond and friendship I developed with several members of the club. While I didn't hardly talk to Trent or Brad (other then at the beginning of the game before I even knew about bullet club) I really got to know Carleen and Adam. I formed a good relationship with them both I thought and I consider them both friends. Jake and Cody I both already had a relationship with before the game from previous seasons years back. Cody and I bonded instantly when the game started and he was known as Casey--once I found out he was actually Cody I wasn't upset, it just solidified our relationship more. And as I have said before Jake really showed his true character to me this season---that of a good friend, person and ally. So yeah I think the relationships I built is was helped me move up the most. 

I never once won a veto competition this season. And I never once was nominated. 

My computer suddenly decided to start working correctly again so you got a bit of a longer response again  

Again thanks for coming back for this. It's really good to hear from you. Whatever you decide in your vote no hard feelings from me at all!

[doolgirl]

Jul 26, 2016 20:00:44 GMT -5 Spideynerd said:

Alright, so, I just want to say again, congrats to the both of you. You both deserve to be sitting next to each other in the final two of this game. Now, my question is for both of you. See, I know how the two of you played this game. Others, they think they know, but they don't know the whole story. In fitting with some thing Joe had us do time and time again in comps, I want you guys to explain your guys game to the members of the jury. What big moves did you make? What regrets do you have? Did you ever waiver from you original plans? Stuff like that. I want a kind of week to week break down of what happened through the eyes of you two. I'd set a word count minimum, but I'm too nice for that.

Basically, I want everyone to truly know your games like I did. They deserve to learn what was happening behind the scenes really. Take your time with this one, and good luck to you both, and never forget, #BulletClub4Lyfe.

Hey Cody, 

Thanks for the kind words. I am so glad I got to play the game with you this season. 

I am so tired and I am not sure I will give you the entire thing you're looking for but I will try. 

When I first started the game I had several messages from several people. One of those messages was from Jake. I was very hesitant to work with him because of my last experience with him in BB6 I believe. He and I had been "enemies" of sorts--but it was always a friendly battle between him and I. I had followed part of BB7 and had thought he deserved the win and had messaged him telling him that and that was the last time he and I had communicated. And so when I saw something from him proposing an alliance with him adam and brad, while hesitant I took it because I needed numbers and I knew he was good at the game. I figured it was better to be on his side then not. I also had messages from Brendan asking me if I wanted to work with him and from Red saying he had my back if I had his. I wrote brendan back and told him sure and I also did the same with Red. There were several other messages if I remember correctly (Ryan, Taylor, Isaac, You, Carleen,etc.) but none about game play yet. I tried to really just get to know people at first, because that was what I wanted to do! As the game progressed I quickly realized working with Brendan was NOT for me. I had every intention of trying to keep Red safe and ultimately I never had to nominate him. Over time I had also formed something with Ryan and Taylor as everyone knows too. I formed that WAY before I knew about bullet club and I really wanted to make it work with them I truly and honestly did, but it just couldn't because of bullet club and their powers. I tried really hard at the beginning to talk to everyone and develop friendships. At the beginning of the game I find the more people like you the better. I really enjoyed ALL the conversations I had with everyone in those first few weeks (and throughout the entire game). 

Overtime I realized Jake was a good ally and I was developing a bond with you, Cody as well, but didn't know you and Jake were aligned. When the bullet club was revealed I was shocked, as I have said before. I decided pretty soon after the reveal that I was going in on it. I knew once I decided that I would have to stick with it. I still wanted to keep my thing with Ryan and Taylor though, especially because I thought I would be towards the bottom of the list. I spent almost an entire weekend in this huge dilemma. I felt like I needed to tell Ryan and Taylor because I felt SO bad. I knew I couldn't though because I knew it could really mess things up for everyone in bullet club. It was honestly one of the toughest things for me in the game keeping it from them, but it was what I had to do. 

As the game progressed the bullet club did really well. Jacob was our biggest threat. Jacob came to me when I won one of my HOHs and proposed to me keeping him. He knew between him and I we could hopefully win all the comps. At that time the diamond POV had not been used yet. So I knew if I even decided to go ahead and try and flip the house with him it wouldn't work out for us. I couldn't explain that to Jacob (since he didn't know diamond POV existed), so I did what I felt was his fairest shot and nominated him so he could be given a shot at the veto (which he of course won ). I also ultimately knew if any of us made it to final two with Jacob though it would be very hard to beat him. It was another dilemma for me because at the time I thought Jacob was my only way to final two, but I knew me sitting next to him in final two would result in me losing ESPECIALLY if it meant turning my back on bullet club members and ultimately I could not turn my back on Jake, Cody, Adam and Carleen. 

As we got closer to the finals I knew I needed to try and seal my fate to make it to the final three. I had been told several times by Jake and Cody the plan was to take me to final three, but I wanted to make a back up plan in case not. Adam was someone I formed a good friendship with and I really liked him and trusted him. So before the last double eviction I asked him what his plan was. I told him if he kept me safe I would keep him safe and we made that deal. When it came time that it was him versus carleen it was really hard for me to vote him out because he had been so loyal to me and I felt like had roles been reversed that he wouldn't have voted me out. Adam I am sorry I voted to evict you, I hope you know that. I knew in the vote you would be evicted so I did what I thought was best for my game at the time. Carleen--I want you to know too that I valued you as well, we had just not ever had that talk which was why I felt that way towards Adam. I'm really glad to have gotten to work with you this season as well. 

I think my honest biggest game move was winning competitions when needed and just being a friend to people. I was genuine in all of it. I really like getting to know different people from around the world and I met a lot of really cool ones in this game. That being my top priority ended up helping my game play out a lot. I also tried REALLY hard to encourage people to never give up. I tried to never lie, I am sure I did but I tried really hard to not blatantly lie to ANYONE. I might have withheld some information at times, but I really tried to never straight up lie. I think being truthful and honest makes a big difference, I really do. 

I made a decision to stick with bullet club and I stuck with it. It was HARD at times. I got upset with people in the alliance a few times. I complained on my diary room several times, but I stayed loyal to them. And I made it to final two. SO I am proud of that. I made it here though because of some great allies. I really don't know what my season would have looked like without the alliance. 

I am extremely tired. I know this didn't give a week by week breakdown, I started that but it was taking too long. I am sure I forgot several things, but I wanted to get this out there before my impossibly long day tomorrow of work. 

Thanks again Cody you are a great friend, person and ally! You could have been in this final two too! I am glad we finally got to play an entire season of big brother together. 

[crulex]

Alright, well, I guess it's my turn to do some asking. But first, I want to congratulate both of you for making it to the final 2. As far as I see, it's the best final 2 I can imagine. As for my vote, well, I have already told the hosts this in the diary room and everyone else already knows, so I'll tell both of you: my voting criteria is how many competitions a person won, how they played the game strategically and socially, and how I feel they answered the questions the jury asked. This is meant to take bias, personal feelings and emotions out of my decision, making myself a robot basically, as I think that is the fairest way to do it. So while I care deeply for both of you and consider you amazing friends, I will be judging you both as strangers and only looking at your games and actions in the past few months. I do hope that whomever does not get my vote understands that this is insanely hard for me, and that you do not hold it against me, as I'm just judging with an open mind and letting only the facts and evidence of the case speak to me. You both have a 100% fair shot with me, and so all I ask is that you be honest with me when you answer my questions. Here we go:



Amanda-

Over the course of the game, I have gotten to talk to you and know you very well. You've worked hard, played as best as you could, and I've seen that you are a genuinely good person, which puts you miles above a lot of people here. But while I respect that and am happy to have met and worked with you, this isn't about that. This is about the game of Big Brother. And here's how I've seen it thus far. Socially, you and Jake played very strong games. While Jake created an alliance that was able to control a good amount of the game and succeeded in it's original goal of getting the Club to the finals (even if it had to be final five and not final seven), you chose your actions and your allies wisely in the beginning and middle of the game, and then when you were on your own, you won key competitions to ensure that you made it to the end. Jake also won some good competitions at the end to make it here. So socially, I see you both having a strong beginning, middle, and end game. Competition-wise, however, Jake won more competitions than you did. As you said, you never won a Veto, and Jake has won plenty Vetos and HOHs. There's nothing I can really say beyond that, so he has an edge over you in that category. I'm not diminishing you or the wins you did get in any way, as you were one of the four strongest competition players here, but I just can't ignore the fact that Jake has hand his hand raised in victory more than you have in competitions. Because I see you both having a strong social game and Jake having won more competitions than you did, that has me leaning towards Jake at the moment. That doesn't mean he has my vote, but it has me leaning. I know you won't take it personally if I do vote for him, as I made a promise to give you a fair shot and I will honor that. I still want to ask you a question. I hope I'm not putting you on too much of a spot, and I'm not asking you to attack Jake in any way, but I need to ask this:



If all things were equal, is there anything that you have done that you feel make you deserve the win more than him, either game play-wise, social strategy, etc.? You can list as many or as few (even zero if you can't think of anything) things/reasons as you desire, and I know you probably won't be able to get to this until either super late tomorrow or Thursday, but when you can get to it, be honest with your answer please.

Jake-

Jake, much like Amanda, you played a great game, and you put more effort into this than a lot of the other house guests. You belong in the finals. I've known you for quite a while. But our past history and friendship will not affect my vote, because I'm doing this fairly and without bias. As I've already told Amanda, you and her both had outstanding game-plans, and while they differed, they both relied on believing and working with the right people at the right times. Now, with you having been the winner of more HOH's and POV's than Amanda, objectively, you seem to have played the game better, and so right now I'm leaning towards you. This doesn't mean you have my vote yet, but I'm leaning. Now, you've been after this for a while and have made it to the finals three years in a row. That's pretty darn good. Last year was interesting though, because when it came down to you and Joe, you said that he played so well that he deserved to win, and that you were happy that even if it wasn't you, you were at the very least at peace with it and okay with him winning because of how he did it. Much like this year, you wanted to win last year, but when Joe won, you respected him and acknowledged that he deserved it. So that has me curious:



Looking at your game and Amanda's game, do you feel the same way that you did when you went up against Joe last year? In other words, would you be happy if Amanda was the Bullet Club member that won this season and feel that Amanda deserves the win?


Best of luck to both of you.

[Fratomon]

I've decided to try and answer Spidey's question. Before I do however, I'll give Crulex a very general answer.

I do feel ALMOST the same way as I did in losing to Joe, as last year I didn't try too hard to win the game, but this year I did, so it's not entirely the same. As for if I feel like Amanda deserves it? Uh...Yeah. Of course I do. She did a great amount of work for herself and for the Bullet Club and deserves entirely to be rewarded for that work. I'd be ecstatic to lose to her, which is probably what will be happening.

So, as for Spidey...You want a week by week walkthrough of my game? You got it. At this point, I am doing this for nothing more than transparency.

The first day the game started, I contacted several people to bring into the game. Fun fact for you, I actually wasn't going to make a Bullet Club at all. When Spidey says that was his idea, he's not lying to you. I originally had asked a few friends to play just for the sake of having more people play this season. I added in an extra four people (Trent, Brad, Carleen, and Spidey) so that it wouldn't be another sucky 13 person season. The last time we had this many people was BB7 and it was a lot of fun for most people, so I just wanted to see us have as many people as we could. I intended, as they were my friends, to work with them all individually, but the thought of putting us all together didn't become even remotely an idea until Spidey brought it up and we discussed it. Then, the game started, and we were off as the Bullet Club. The first week's HOH, it was relatively simple thanks to the numbers. We were gonna make me the first HOH and make a statement by getting Brendan nominated, Jacob as the number two guy because at the time I had a sour taste in my mouth from the season prior. A few hours to go and I had 11 words altogether, we had been waiting for Willy's word. I ended up being tired I believe and sent in my words a few hours before the due date and took a nap, only to wake up and a few minutes later be named the HOH. As it turns out, I guessed Willy's word right and got the win, so that was lucky for me for the most part. At this point, we sent in our votes, I had spoken with several people and got many votes sent Brendan and Jacob's way, thus making them the nominees. Of course, we saw nothing come of this as both Liam and Willy walked from the game, but I still say it as some form of a success just being able to accomplish winning the HOH as a unit with fluid talks between the Club and proper planning. Nothing showed that more than the next week however.

Spidey, as Casey, won the second HOH, and he came up with the idea of taking advantage of the fact you can nominate more than two people, and I went out and managed to plan the votes correctly to have Red, Jacob, Jay, and Brendan on the block at the same time, the reason being because I figured them to be the four people left who nominated Crulex and Brad the first week. Basically, we were retaliating for the votes. After making sure they had the correct amount of votes across the board, we naturally hoped for the eviction of Brendan, but that didn't happen. Jacob won his first of four POVs and used it to get off the block and that was the start of "Put Taylor up because he has the best chance of beating everyone else" thought process...which kind of goes back to BB7 when I sent Taylor to Limbo figuring, if anyone was going to beat AJ and Jennifer, it'd be him. Unfortunately, that didn't happen, but in the process I got rid of him and he was a huge threat. So, the same thought process was there. Taylor could easily beat the other three but if he somehow didn't, there wasn't any real skin off our backs. Jay ends up going home, more bodies drop that didnt really try to do much.

Then came week three, the week that totally changed everything. Amanda wins HOH, and she and I had been just normal allies at the start of the week. At the end of the week, she was a part of the Bullet Club. Due to Spidey working towards the DPOV, we had to have Trent get at least three votes, and in the process, we accidentally nominated him. That was the first and really only actual screw up the Bullet Club made. However, as we saw, Brendan won the POV, but I was able to coach Trent and help lift him up over Brendan who still made the stupidest decision EVER by not using the Power of Veto to save himself. That same day Brendan didn't use the Power of Veto, I invited Amanda to join the Bullet Club because she'd proven to be such an important piece of the puzzle as well as an excellent ally and friend. I got attached to her as did Spidey and she quickly earned her stripes and became important.

Week four came and once again we were in charge as Spidey won the HOH. I made the executive decision to target Red alongside Jacob as I was left thinking that Red was actually CR from the past two seasons of Big Brother, whom I did not get along with due to clashes of interest and mutual dislike for one another. So, I wanted him gone more so than Jacob, and I got that wish as Jacob won the Power of Veto and we again turned to Taylor as the replacement, and it worked out as he defeated Red and sent him packing, making me very happy and keeping the plan on the tracks.

We got to week five, the first part of the first Double Eviction, and I managed to go out there and win the HOH. We decided to nominate Taylor and Jacob as one of Spidey's tasks was to get Ryan nominated that week. However, because Amanda didn't want to see Ryan be nominated, we tried to accommodate that at first. Carleen won the Power of Veto and we had all the power, and we decided it would be in our best interest, while Spidey needed Ryan nominated, to veto Taylor and put up Ryan. Unfortunately, Ryan could not defeat Jacob and instead was evicted himself, something I don't think the three of us wanted, albeit I knew Ryan and Taylor were specifically targeting me. Then we get to the second part of Double Eviction and Amanda manages to win the HOH out of no where and nominates Jacob and Taylor. Jacob won the POV and left us to evict Taylor over Crystal, thus eliminating really the final 'group threat' left as opposed to the Bullet Club. It was a huge win, but with what was about to happen, the game was going to get rocked.

The Bullet Club is revealed in Week 6. Jacob wins the HOH and suddenly it seems like revealing the Bullet Club may have been a huge mistake. We are unable to even win the Power of Veto, and suddenly it looked like the Bullet Club was about to lose either it's leader of 'second in command' as Spidey and I are the final nominees. However, I had a power I had saved for weeks, going all the way back to the second HOH. It angered a few people and was seen as highly annoying, but thanks to my own game play I managed to have a power I didn't need to use until then, and I reset the week, taking the HOH from Jacob and, after playing it over again, giving it to myself. It was then that we played Week 6 again, and Issac lost his mind. Still got no respect for him, which is why I entirely ignored what he posted during this questioning process. But he lost his mind over learning he had no chance in the game (albeit, and anyone can vouch this for me, I had entirely wanted to take Isaac to the Final 8.) and he ended up quitting, again screwing over one of my HOH's by having someone quit before we could see an eviction.

Week 7 was quick and easy, as we couldn't nominate Jacob, so Spidey put up myself and Carleen. I won the Power of Veto, and as a callback to Brendan's failure to use the POV, I used the Power of Veto on Carleen to become the first person in BBORG history to not use the Power of Veto on themselves and still not get evicted. We took out Crystal and were left at the final eight with the biggest thorn in our side that we'd dealt with all season, Jacob.

In the first half of the second double eviction during Week 8, Amanda nominated Jacob and myself, as to make sure I was playing POV. In the end, Jacob managed to capture it himself, and it was finally the first week that we failed. We couldn't get the job done and before we wanted to, we had to say good bye to one of our own as Trent was evicted from the game. The second half of Double Eviction was no better as Jacob won HOH, nominated myself and Spidey again, and left me to win the Power of Veto. I used it to save myself, and since it was his last week he could use it, Spidey used the Diamond Power of Veto and we effectively screwed up Jacob's HOH reign, having Brad and Carleen up we evicted Brad.

Week 9 rolled around, and we finally defeated Jacob. Spidey wins HOH, I win POV, and it's doneski. Weeks 10 and 11 saw myself and Amanda win the HOHs respectively and remove Crulex and Carleen from the game, myself winning the Power of Vetos needed to do that.

So, we reach the Final Three. I don't think I need to discuss that.

But really, that's it. That's what my full game was. I put in a ton of work to have votes go certain ways the first few weeks (If you honestly think I played the worst social game ever, look over the start of the game and the first few weeks where Jacob got nominated every single week. It took more than just getting the Bullet Club to vote a certain way to nominate people. I had to not only coordinate so many things within this group of people, as well as talk to many of you the first few weeks to make sure things went one way or another. When it stopped coming down to that, I won five of the six vetos available after the twist ended and took things into my own hands. I had a perfect mix of social and game play up until the Bullet Club was revealed where I somehow became terrible and mean and heartless.

Anyway, that's all. Hope you enjoyed that Spidey, and I hope it gives everyone a little insight into what I did.

[lassidoggy]

Jul 27, 2016 14:37:34 GMT -5 Fratomon said:

I've decided to try and answer Spidey's question. Before I do however, I'll give Crulex a very general answer.

I do feel ALMOST the same way as I did in losing to Joe, as last year I didn't try too hard to win the game, but this year I did, so it's not entirely the same. As for if I feel like Amanda deserves it? Uh...Yeah. Of course I do. She did a great amount of work for herself and for the Bullet Club and deserves entirely to be rewarded for that work. I'd be ecstatic to lose to her, which is probably what will be happening.

So, as for Spidey...You want a week by week walkthrough of my game? You got it. At this point, I am doing this for nothing more than transparency.

The first day the game started, I contacted several people to bring into the game. Fun fact for you, I actually wasn't going to make a Bullet Club at all. When Spidey says that was his idea, he's not lying to you. I originally had asked a few friends to play just for the sake of having more people play this season. I added in an extra four people (Trent, Brad, Carleen, and Spidey) so that it wouldn't be another sucky 13 person season. The last time we had this many people was BB7 and it was a lot of fun for most people, so I just wanted to see us have as many people as we could. I intended, as they were my friends, to work with them all individually, but the thought of putting us all together didn't become even remotely an idea until Spidey brought it up and we discussed it. Then, the game started, and we were off as the Bullet Club. The first week's HOH, it was relatively simple thanks to the numbers. We were gonna make me the first HOH and make a statement by getting Brendan nominated, Jacob as the number two guy because at the time I had a sour taste in my mouth from the season prior. A few hours to go and I had 11 words altogether, we had been waiting for Willy's word. I ended up being tired I believe and sent in my words a few hours before the due date and took a nap, only to wake up and a few minutes later be named the HOH. As it turns out, I guessed Willy's word right and got the win, so that was lucky for me for the most part. At this point, we sent in our votes, I had spoken with several people and got many votes sent Brendan and Jacob's way, thus making them the nominees. Of course, we saw nothing come of this as both Liam and Willy walked from the game, but I still say it as some form of a success just being able to accomplish winning the HOH as a unit with fluid talks between the Club and proper planning. Nothing showed that more than the next week however.

Spidey, as Casey, won the second HOH, and he came up with the idea of taking advantage of the fact you can nominate more than two people, and I went out and managed to plan the votes correctly to have Red, Jacob, Jay, and Brendan on the block at the same time, the reason being because I figured them to be the four people left who nominated Crulex and Brad the first week. Basically, we were retaliating for the votes. After making sure they had the correct amount of votes across the board, we naturally hoped for the eviction of Brendan, but that didn't happen. Jacob won his first of four POVs and used it to get off the block and that was the start of "Put Taylor up because he has the best chance of beating everyone else" thought process...which kind of goes back to BB7 when I sent Taylor to Limbo figuring, if anyone was going to beat AJ and Jennifer, it'd be him. Unfortunately, that didn't happen, but in the process I got rid of him and he was a huge threat. So, the same thought process was there. Taylor could easily beat the other three but if he somehow didn't, there wasn't any real skin off our backs. Jay ends up going home, more bodies drop that didnt really try to do much.

Then came week three, the week that totally changed everything. Amanda wins HOH, and she and I had been just normal allies at the start of the week. At the end of the week, she was a part of the Bullet Club. Due to Spidey working towards the DPOV, we had to have Trent get at least three votes, and in the process, we accidentally nominated him. That was the first and really only actual screw up the Bullet Club made. However, as we saw, Brendan won the POV, but I was able to coach Trent and help lift him up over Brendan who still made the stupidest decision EVER by not using the Power of Veto to save himself. That same day Brendan didn't use the Power of Veto, I invited Amanda to join the Bullet Club because she'd proven to be such an important piece of the puzzle as well as an excellent ally and friend. I got attached to her as did Spidey and she quickly earned her stripes and became important.

Week four came and once again we were in charge as Spidey won the HOH. I made the executive decision to target Red alongside Jacob as I was left thinking that Red was actually CR from the past two seasons of Big Brother, whom I did not get along with due to clashes of interest and mutual dislike for one another. So, I wanted him gone more so than Jacob, and I got that wish as Jacob won the Power of Veto and we again turned to Taylor as the replacement, and it worked out as he defeated Red and sent him packing, making me very happy and keeping the plan on the tracks.

We got to week five, the first part of the first Double Eviction, and I managed to go out there and win the HOH. We decided to nominate Taylor and Jacob as one of Spidey's tasks was to get Ryan nominated that week. However, because Amanda didn't want to see Ryan be nominated, we tried to accommodate that at first. Carleen won the Power of Veto and we had all the power, and we decided it would be in our best interest, while Spidey needed Ryan nominated, to veto Taylor and put up Ryan. Unfortunately, Ryan could not defeat Jacob and instead was evicted himself, something I don't think the three of us wanted, albeit I knew Ryan and Taylor were specifically targeting me. Then we get to the second part of Double Eviction and Amanda manages to win the HOH out of no where and nominates Jacob and Taylor. Jacob won the POV and left us to evict Taylor over Crystal, thus eliminating really the final 'group threat' left as opposed to the Bullet Club. It was a huge win, but with what was about to happen, the game was going to get rocked.

The Bullet Club is revealed in Week 6. Jacob wins the HOH and suddenly it seems like revealing the Bullet Club may have been a huge mistake. We are unable to even win the Power of Veto, and suddenly it looked like the Bullet Club was about to lose either it's leader of 'second in command' as Spidey and I are the final nominees. However, I had a power I had saved for weeks, going all the way back to the second HOH. It angered a few people and was seen as highly annoying, but thanks to my own game play I managed to have a power I didn't need to use until then, and I reset the week, taking the HOH from Jacob and, after playing it over again, giving it to myself. It was then that we played Week 6 again, and Issac lost his mind. Still got no respect for him, which is why I entirely ignored what he posted during this questioning process. But he lost his mind over learning he had no chance in the game (albeit, and anyone can vouch this for me, I had entirely wanted to take Isaac to the Final 8.) and he ended up quitting, again screwing over one of my HOH's by having someone quit before we could see an eviction.

Week 7 was quick and easy, as we couldn't nominate Jacob, so Spidey put up myself and Carleen. I won the Power of Veto, and as a callback to Brendan's failure to use the POV, I used the Power of Veto on Carleen to become the first person in BBORG history to not use the Power of Veto on themselves and still not get evicted. We took out Crystal and were left at the final eight with the biggest thorn in our side that we'd dealt with all season, Jacob.

In the first half of the second double eviction during Week 8, Amanda nominated Jacob and myself, as to make sure I was playing POV. In the end, Jacob managed to capture it himself, and it was finally the first week that we failed. We couldn't get the job done and before we wanted to, we had to say good bye to one of our own as Trent was evicted from the game. The second half of Double Eviction was no better as Jacob won HOH, nominated myself and Spidey again, and left me to win the Power of Veto. I used it to save myself, and since it was his last week he could use it, Spidey used the Diamond Power of Veto and we effectively screwed up Jacob's HOH reign, having Brad and Carleen up we evicted Brad.

Week 9 rolled around, and we finally defeated Jacob. Spidey wins HOH, I win POV, and it's doneski. Weeks 10 and 11 saw myself and Amanda win the HOHs respectively and remove Crulex and Carleen from the game, myself winning the Power of Vetos needed to do that.

So, we reach the Final Three. I don't think I need to discuss that.

But really, that's it. That's what my full game was. I put in a ton of work to have votes go certain ways the first few weeks (If you honestly think I played the worst social game ever, look over the start of the game and the first few weeks where Jacob got nominated every single week. It took more than just getting the Bullet Club to vote a certain way to nominate people. I had to not only coordinate so many things within this group of people, as well as talk to many of you the first few weeks to make sure things went one way or another. When it stopped coming down to that, I won five of the six vetos available after the twist ended and took things into my own hands. I had a perfect mix of social and game play up until the Bullet Club was revealed where I somehow became terrible and mean and heartless.

Anyway, that's all. Hope you enjoyed that Spidey, and I hope it gives everyone a little insight into what I did.

So is your hatred of me worth more than the victory? 

[Fratomon]

Jul 27, 2016 18:37:37 GMT -5 lassidoggy said:

Jul 27, 2016 14:37:34 GMT -5 Fratomon said:

So is your hatred of me worth more than the victory? 

I was going to continue to ignore you, but a second ago I had a change of heart.

I don't hate you. I don't hate anyone, closest person that comes to me hating them is Brendan.

The victory isn't worth me acknowledging someone with zero respect for me past this post.

[doolgirl]

Hey guys

I just got done working 15 hours in a row and I'm exhausted. But I really wanted to put one more post out there.

This will likely be my last post before the vote reveal because I work again at 630am tomorrow and have a busy day again. Hopefully not everyone has voted yet to allow Jake and I both ample time to continue to plead our cases.

First to Adam. Jake played a good game. I think there is a lot more to this game than just winning competitions though. Some of the things that I believe show my good game play include

1. I played honest
2. I played with integrity.
3. I won critical competitions. And I came in second in several other competitions. I don't think I was picked for as many vetos as some either.
4. I didn't play dirty at all.

Now onto what I really want to say in this post is over the past week I have realized just how regretful I am of how I played this game. I am regretful of the fact that I didn't do more of the things I wanted to do. It was an impossible battle for me from the moment I joined bullet club to ever dream I could get to final two, get there and then actually get any jury votes from other bullet clubs members. So what did I do to try and earn their respect and trust? I made a lot of sacrifices. I went to them and begged them to keep Ryan safe. He went home that same week (yes I learned later it was because of DPOV but I felt bad still). I didn't want to send Taylor out the way I did but I did it to keep the alliance safe. I wanted to try and go further with Jacob at one point because I knew he would take me to the final two, but I didn't for the sake of the club. I wanted to vote to keep Adam but I didn't because my motives were questioned. I tried to plead my case for making it to the final two and was shot down and told that even if I did that they would be fighting for the other "original" bullet club member to win because "nothing would have been possible" without them. When the final three HOH incident happened and Jake was so down in the dumps I felt SO bad that I almost wanted to bow out and give this win to him. I've made a lot of sacrifices for this alliance. And yet I still feel like my being in this final two is STILL being questioned as to whether or not I deserve it or have earned it. And it really hurts my feelings more than anything.

I have earned it. I didn't come into this game with any kind of plan or strategy other than to have some fun. I knew of a few people before this game started but did not have ANY solid relationships with one person in this house. Yet somehow along the way I made moves to secure my safety to the point I was NEVER nominated. That alone is a huge thing I had to work for. Especially when you consider how close some people were before this game started. I won important competitions. I put my entire heart into the first part of the final HOH. If you haven't looked over that HOH please do. It was a lot of work! I spent probably ten hours in total working on it and securing that win.

I have also played this game with so much heart. And that has probably been a downfall at times but it is something I am proud of. And maybe it means nothing to you all but it does to me. I don't think I am walking out of here with one enemy and I am proud of that. Even Brendan if he came to me tomorrow and told me that he was rude as a strategy id probably believe him and we could move on.

Now to close this I want to say one thing. I think Jake played a great game and deserves this too. If I lose to him I am not upset. I am so happy for him. I just think I deserve this too and really just want some acknowledgement for that from some people.

Thanks

[Fratomon]

If anyone has any soft and easy questions, I'll take them now. If not, that's fine. I'm about as ready as Amanda for this to be over and I think she and I have explained just about everything we could.